Charles Llewellyn Buckingham Co, VA

Carol Redd - Mar 31, 2011

Hello All

I've just been contacted by Angela Carter Ridder whose dad (Carter) proved to be an exact match w/ my dad (Sexton) at 67-markers.   I've asked her to join us on this site to explore just where the NPE event occurred.   I'm including an email exchange between Angela, John and myself so we can all benefit.   Perhaps some of you have already encountered Charles Lewellyn of Buckingham Co, VA mid-1700s.   But, on the safe side, I'm posting here.

(Read from the bottom up)

Angela/John and Billie

I just can't help myself - I have to check email now that I know we're onto a different line of Llewellyns which I haven't yet explored.

Since Angela's testee matches my dad's (Lloyd Sexton), I think the Charles Llewellyn line needs to be researched, a present day living descendant located and tested.   This could possibly send us all back a previous generation or further.   Sometimes we have to be satisfied that while we might not be able to connect to an exact gr. gr. grandparent, we can connect further back and know more about their origins, etc.

Angela - do you have anything more on other Llewellyns in the area - maybe Charles was the father, but maybe his brother or cousin was.   Regardless, this exact match at 67-markers proves a connection to the Llewellyns in Buckingham Co, VA in the mid-1700s.

Billie - do you have anything on this line?

--- On Wed, 3/30/11, Gntlman552@aol.com <Gntlman552@aol.com> wrote:


   From: Gntlman552@aol.com <Gntlman552@aol.com>
   Subject: Re: Lewallens in Scott Co, TN
   To: casbar54@yahoo.com
   Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 8:28 PM

   Carol, I am so excited to be getting this information. I will try to tell you where I have found a link to the Lewellyns. My Carter lineage is as follows:
 
   William Carter 1641
     William John Carter born 1660 Middlesex Virginia
       Joseph Carter born 1704 Middlesex Virginia
         Joseph Carter II born 1732 Spotsylvania Co. Virginia
             John Carter born 1752 Buckingham County Virginia
                 Sarah (Sally) Carter born about. 1800 Bedford County Virginia (Sally's children were illegitimate)
 
   Sally Carter was my great, great, great grandmother. She had a sister named Elizabeth Carter that married Green Berry Lewellyn in 1810 in Campbell Co. Virginia and they moved to Missouri. Green Berry Lewellyn was the son of Charles Lewellyn and Elizabeth Harrison. Charles was born March 15 1792 in Campbell County, Virginia and died September 7 1847 in St. Louis MO.
 
   Elizabeth Carter and Green Lewellyn had:
       Lucinda Lewellyn Born 1811 born December 1811 and died August 5, 1855 in Barry Co. MO
       Frances Harrison Lewellyn born abt 1815 and died July 5, 1854 in Wyandotte Co. Kanas.
 
   I hope this gives you some insight
 
   Angela
 
   Angela Carter Ridder

Billie Harris - Mar 31, 2011

Angela, welcome to the site.

I do have some info on the Carters and I'll check more later tonight when I get a chance.

But you can check this site for what we have on Green Berry/Greenberry and his family.

I've only quickly gleaned over everything but something I noted was that James Lewallen married Sally Harrison and then Greenberry married Elizabeth Carter.   What we have shows both to be Quakers.  

When you say Sarah (Sally) Carter's children were illegitimate, is that information from   Quaker records?   If so, maybe that's where the "illegitimate" came in because unless a person was married in the Quaker religion, their children were considered illegitimate.  

And something else that I'm wondering.   Green B. married a Carter and his brother James married a Sally Harrison.   What do we know about Sally Harrison?   Is it   possible that Sarah (Sally) Carter might have married a Harrison, become a widow and then married James Lewallen?   Probably not, but it made me wonder if that might have been the case.  

One final note.   John Carter born 1752 in Buckingham County.   Buckinghame didn't become a county until 1758 when it was formed from Albemarle and Appomattox.  

Some of my notes show, even though this may not be of help or you may have it already, that there were Carters in Albemarle County, even a "Carter's Mountain."   I don't know who it was named for but there was a Henry Carter born 1759, son of Barnard or Barnett Carter (born 1737 Middlesex County) in Albemarle.   In 1786 there was   an Edward Carter who, in 1790, married Mary Randolh Lewis in Albemarle.  

For Spotsylvania County (your Joseph was born there 1732), theres the following:

1773 - WILL BOOK E 1772-1798   page 30
[p.30]CARTER, HENRY, Berkeley Parish, d. Feb. 4, 1773, p. May 18, 1775. Wit. Henry Pendleton, Jno. Apperson, John Steward. Ex. wife Elizabeth and sons George and John Carter. Leg. son Henry; daughter Salley Carter; son Charles; my wife Elizabeth; son John; my five children, Ann Stevens, Molly Massey, Elizabeth Davenport, Salley Carter and Charles Carter; son George; all my children, Frances, George, Ann, Molley, John, Henry, Elizabeth, Salley and Charles

1780 - WILL BOOK E 1772-1798 page 46
CARTER, ELIZABETH, widow, Berkeley Parish, Spotsylvania Co., d. Dec. 13, 1780, Executors Bond dated Jan. 4, 1791. Wit. James Apperson, Henry Pendleton, James Wilson. Ex. sons Henry and Charles Carter. Leg. children, George, Ann, Molly, John, Henry, Elizabeth, Sally and Charles.

As I said, you may have all of this already.

Carol Redd - Apr 1, 2011

Angela posted this correction in another thread, so I'm re-posting it here:
   My email was mistaken on Charles Llewelyn Senior's date of birth and death. The information that I included was on Charles' son who was also named Charles. I have the Charles Senior was born 11/16/1750, died 12/10/1804 and married Elizabeth Harrison on 12/23/1779. Angie Carter Ridder

Robert Carter - May 4, 2011

Maybe everyone is aware of this... but here is a connection for Llewellen's in Tenn and Virginia.   Note Charles Lewellan Sr is the father of Green Berry Lewellan. So, maybe we are connected with Daniel LLewellen III of Prince Edwards, Va? Two sons died in Anderson and Morgan, Tenn. (Richard Lewellen, Sr and Anderson Llewellen, Sr)
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/r/t/FRANK-G-ART
HUR/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0602.html

Billie Harris - May 4, 2011

Thanks for posting the site.   Some of the information is correct, other a little questionable.   The info on Charles seems to be correct.

The Daniel of Prince Edward County wasn't a son or grandson of Daniel and Jane (Stith) Lewelling of Charles City County as the site shows.   Daniel and Jane left only female children, no males.   Charles, Anderson, and, of course, others, descend from Abel Lewelling who was brought to the colonies by Johanna Yates 1663.   One of these days I'll finish up everything I can find on the descendants of Abel and post it.  

But that site does have some good information.   I tried to find who posted it but couldn't.

Robert Carter - May 4, 2011

Hi Billie.... I'm guessing from the URL address that it was Frank G Arthur.... http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/r/t/FRANK-G-ART
HUR/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-Index.html

Carol Redd - May 4, 2011

Robert

IF Daniel was married about 1736, I tend to discount that Mary would still be having children in 1763 and 1764, 27 and 28 years later respectively.   I certainly have not researched Daniel, so I couldn't say that with any certainty.   Does anyone else know of documentation?

Thanks for sharing with us.   We definitely need all the eyes we can get to solve this puzzle.

Billie Harris - May 5, 2011

Carol:   Here's information on the Daniel mentioned in that URL.

[NOTE: broken links]

In my posting, I questioned individuals but we've since answered the question of who they were.   Richard, Robert and Alexander.   Whether related to Daniel or not, I don't know, but here's information on them.   Warwick and York were close to Charles City.

I don't think we can put this Richard with the Norfolk or Prince Edward County Richard because of the location.   Commuting in colonial days wasn't easy.   And, too, it's fairly certain that the Norfolk and Prince Edward families were related.   They descend from Abel Lewelling.   I'll post what I have on them soon as I get some time.