Billie Harris - Jun 24, 2012
I have Ancestry and just saw a deed of 1740 from Joseph Rice to his son Icay Rice. It mentions on Sandy River, James Logan's line and witnesses were David Rice, Joseph Rice and - I think - Richard Blandon. I'm trying to find out what "Icay" could have stood for. Some say Isaac, some Isham, but it's only what they believe, no substantiation. We have a Zachariah Rice and I've wondered if Icay might have been a nickname for him...probably not but there's no record of any name for him other than Ica or Icay and that sounds like a strange given name.
However, to my question. In 1740 Joseph Rice deeded land to Icay. I can't tell what county it was in. I presume it was Amelia and the part that later became Prince Edward. Can any one with Ancestry look at that Deed and verify what I believe to be the case, and that it was in Amelia.
As an aside, Susannah Lewelling (widow of Thomas) and her son Jesse, purchased land on the Sandy River in 1753. The in 1771 Icay and Maiden witnessed a deed with Charley Lewelling, and the land was on Sandy River. Icay and Maiden and their children moved to what later became Bourbon County, KY in 1779 and he was killed by Indians 1780
Sue Cooper - Jun 26, 2012
Billie, Is the deed you found a copy of the original or someones abstract? Did you find it a family tree someone has posted on ancestry? If so, which one? Sorry for so many questions, but there are many trees with Joseph Rice. I have copies of originals of many of the PE Co., VA deeds. I may have the Charley Lewelling one, if that would help. Just let me know if I can help.
Sheila Wingate - Jun 26, 2012
Could you paste the link to the deed that you want us to look at. That would make it easier for us to find the one you are asking about. Thanks.
Billie Harris - Jun 26, 2012
I'll paste the link, but unless you belong to Ancestry, I don't think it can be accessed.
Sue, it's a handwritten copy of the Abstract that's on Ancestry. It shows page two but I can't seem to get page one which might tell the county. Here's the link.
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/24006927/person/1479759336/ph
oto/6021c836-8266-4ad9-9d07-bcf2c8dd13cc?src=search
Mary Hubbell - Jun 26, 2012
I clicked on the item to enlarge it and it opened a page on ancestry that includes the first page of the deed. That one says that it is in Prince Edward County. I think it is most like to be a nick name for Isaac than either Zachariah or Isham. Then again, being a legal paper - maybe the son really was named Icay for some reason.
Billie Harris - Jun 26, 2012
Mary, thank you.
Now after looking at that deed again, it makes sense. The Deed is dated 1765, not 1740. I had read in a post somewhere that it was 1740. Obviously I should have looked closer at that Deed.
And Mary, you're probably right. His name may have been Icay because it shows up in several places.
Kay McKinnon - Jul 21, 2012
Could have been spelled out name of a younger man named for an older fellow who had initials I K
Billie Harris - Jul 21, 2012
Never thought of that, Kay. Good idea. And often fellows were named Isaac in those days so the I. could have stood for that.
In fact, in the History section, I just posted an obit for a cousin of mine. He went by C.R. and that's all I ever remember him by although, until I read the article, I had no idea he was a junior and the C.R. was his dad's name, Clyde Raymond. So that could have happened in this case, too.
Definitely something to ponder
Jul 22, 2012
Billie,
I have seen Icay as a surname. I vote for a child who has been given family surname on this one. Mainly because documents usually do not contain shortened names, they contain the full name.
Marlea Llewellyn - Jul 22, 2012
I agree. I have several Arney Biddles in my family because the original Arney's Mom maiden name was Arney.
Billie Harris - Jul 22, 2012
I just did a search on Ancestry for a surname Icay and found some for the 1900's but nothing before then. Then did a search for that as a given name and can't find one for the 1700's or even 1800's. I'll keep looking and if anyone turns up that as a surname or given name for anyone other than the Rice fellow, would you post it. It could be a clue.