Posted By: Dorothy Campbell
Date Posted: Mar 15, 2009
Description:
Lewallen Crest
http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/lewallen-family-cre
st.htm
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Jean Brand - Jul 28, 2009
Believe Vincit qur patitur means He Conquers Who Endures
Dorothy Campbell - Jul 28, 2009
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jkmacmul/n
amemeanings-coatofarms/mottoes_A.html
Cindy Lewallen - Jul 30, 2009
Literally translated, I think it means "Who endures conquers"
Joseph R. Jones - Jul 30, 2009
Remember that coats of arms like this one are assigned by one of the British heralds to an individual, not to a family or a surname, and only the person to whom the arms are registered has the right to use them. There is no such thing as "a Llewellyn crest" or coat of arms, and Americans--in this case--have no claim on such designs. Companies that identify "family" coat of arms mislead clients by suggesting (never stating outright) that if your name is, for ex., Llewellyn, this is "your" device. Unless you can prove that you are descended from the grantee of a specific design, you have no reason to claim it. (Irish heraldic customs are different.)
Billie Harris - Jul 31, 2009
Joe, I sure didn't know that until you pointed it out. I was always under the impression it was for a particular name, not the individual, but you're right. In other words, if we can trace our family back to the one for whom the crest was made, then we could use it. At least that's the interpretation I'm getting. Here's more on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms
Dorothy Campbell - Jul 31, 2009
Joe,
You are correct, and I have been aware of it for a few years now. I was not trying to claim the Crest, just merely posted it as a Lewallen Crest, since there are several lines going here. It was listed as a Crest on the site where I found it and I posted the link to that site when I posted it, it goes into a lot of detail there as well.
Thanks for sharing that with everyone. I just figured since we have a lot of people on here who have been involved for years with genealogy, that everyone already knew the details, over sight on my part. Thanks again for pointing it out.
Billie Harris - Jul 31, 2009
I believe a lot of the misconception is because some firms sell the coats of arms with information that goes along with them. I know I bought one myself a long time ago and the company selling it to me didn't point out that it wasn't for the name. In fact, I think I put it in the original of the Llewellyn, Lewallen, etc. book. Little did I know !
Dorothy Campbell - Jul 31, 2009
It sure is a pretty colored one.
Billie Harris - Jul 31, 2009
It does get the attention alright. Wonder what the lions mean.
Dorothy Campbell - Jul 31, 2009
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=heraldry%2Flions&btnG=G
oogle+Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
Dorothy Campbell - Jul 31, 2009
http://www.fleurdelis.com/lions.htm
Dorothy Campbell - Jul 31, 2009
